Exploring Scan Staging With Reference Objects


  • As I taught my students in 3D design and printing classes, their goal should be to first LEARN their tools and then USE their tools.  

    And, that is exactly what I am trying to do with my THREE.

    I don't mind limiting what I initially scan if experimenting with the THREE will give me insights that I can use in the future for many scans.  That learning scan could be just about anything.  In my case I'm using a saxaphone mouthpiece.

    My goal is to explore and understand the THREE's feature based approach to alignment.

    And, I am working under one assumption that may or may not be correct.

    "Reference Objects should always move in relative position with the object being scanned as that object is changing orientation."

    Objects often need to be re-oriented to scan all sides effectively.  When this happens, I am assuming that all of the reference objects I am using also need to be re-oriented so that they always line up exactly in the same position relative to the scanned object.  Therefore, creating staging tools (bases, swivels, props) that help us do that is a helpful

    Since multi-color 3D printers are common now, that is what I am using to create my reference features.

    In this case, there is a base that swivels around two axes and a 'reference table' that slides onto the top piece so that it moves with the object being held.

    Upright

    Reference Staging Table - Upright

    Angled

    Reference Staging - Angled.

    While it works, there were some shortcoming in actual practice.  The chief being that the short base limited the movement.  The other being that the reference table features needed to be more pronounced.

     

     

     

     



  • In the first post, images showed that my initial staging attempt, while generally successful, had some limitations, like limited forward rotation to tilt the object.  And, sometimes, it was difficult to locate 4 points for alignment because the reference feature object was a bit too narrow.

    I thought it could be made to work better by inceasing the stand's height and making the features more pronouned.

    Increased Stand Height Results

    High Base Changes

    Just a little addition to the height of the base, allows for a MUCH deeper tilt forward for reaching deeper into the mouthpiece chamber while scanning.

    Changes to Reference Features Platform.

    Changes to Feature Platform

    The first change to the feature platform was the width, making each feature protrude farther should expose more alignment points as the object is re-oriented.  While only coloring the tops initially saved a lot of print time and generally worked, the new table's features are fully colored, which should help future scanning alignment.  The two side features were changed from octogons to triangles to aid refining the point pick.

    Addressing the problem of the Scanning the Bottom of the Object

    The above stand and reference objects hid the bottom of the mouthpiece, preventing scanning.  While capturing the bottom is not absolutely necessary, my goal is to learn how to address scanning challenges.  In keeping with my assumption that the reference objects need to remain EXACTLY where they are relative to the object for aligning the bottom scan with the previous scans, I came up with this solution to try.

    Botom Scan Solution

    What will be important is to make sure the slipover scanning refwrence table is EXACTLY aligned, both in rotation and distance from the bottom.  I'll be trying this new table this weekend.  Hopefully, it will do the trick.


  • This is such a fascinating approach, Tom—your methodical experimentation and the idea of using multi-axis staging with reference objects is really inspiring. I’m especially intrigued by your assumption about maintaining relative positioning during reorientation. That makes a lot of sense and opens up some exciting possibilities for more complex scans.

    If you’d be willing to share more of your findings as you refine your setup, I’d be absolutely thrilled to follow along. Looking forward to seeing how your reference table evolves!

    Cheers,
    -Vik


  • Thanks Vik.

    Actually this next step had you specifically in mind... making the stand universal so that it could be easily adapted for holding other things, like rigs.

    The first step was to make the stand, itself, modular, with a slide-in mount.

    Universtal Modular Scan Stand

    With this configuration any clamp system could be used by designing a slide for each clamp.  Here is the modificqation for holding a saxophone mouthpiece vertically.   (Note an even larger reference table)

    Saxophone Slide-In Mount (Vertical)


  • This next image shows how the slide mount could be easily modified to take a slide-in clamp for a ring.  This is a just a quick design that may or may not work as hoped.  But, it could be a place to start as one endeavored to create a reliable scan mount to be used for rings and smll jewelry.

    Potential Ring Stand


  • This evening, I'm only scanning, and will leave all the alignment and post-processing until a later session.  That's one of the beauties of using the THREE.  Projects can be completed in stages, across multiple computers.  I'm using a very old i3 Win10 notebook computer in my scanning work area and a fairly recent i7 notebook with a much better screen to do the processing from a completely different area from where the scanner is located.

    A number of scan groups where taken.  Here are just three of the groups.

    Upright - 9 Captures / 360 degrees

    Upright Scan Group

    Tilted 180+ Degrees to see inside the chamber

    Tilted Scan Group

    The Saddle slide-in support with the feature allowing capture of the bottom

    Bottom Scan


  • One of the things I ran into was a tendancy to rotation the object directly, rather than rotate using the reference object.  This inadvertantly caused the mouthpiece to slip off-center.  While it could be aligned by sight, there was no way to ensure that putting it back was going to absolutely align with earlier scans.

    The solution was to create an alignment and height tool that would ensure the reference object was in perfect alignment with the flat platform of the mouthpiece and also ALWAYS put back on the exact height.  This had the added benefit of giving me the exact distance and design for the bottom alignment tool which slipped over the bottom of the mouthpiece.

    Alignment and Height Guage


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